Re: ORGLIST: Synthetic Methods Wiki

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From: Eugen Leitl (eugen$##$leitl.org)
Date: Tue Feb 21 2006 - 14:08:07 EST

On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 07:54:57PM +0100, Jonas Sundberg wrote:

> Yes, that looks like a big problem.

I wonder what the motivation behind this restrictive copyright
was. Do the operators of http://www.syntheticpages.org/ (I kept
looking for a contact address, but was unable to find any) eventually
intend to raise a profit from operating it?

> But I think it will be hard to get traffic/active writers, as there seem
> to be a lack of organic chemists that surf the web. Still I think it's
> worth a try! It doesn't cost anything else than the time wasted setting
> it up, and it could both be fun and educative. But I think we need more
> than a wiki of organic synthesis. A think a general wiki about organic
> chemistry with a special section dedicated to preparatory methods would
> work better, and maybe run a forum too.

I'm a chemist by training, currently work in cheminformatics, and
have several machines in the rack by way of hobby. Assuming people here
would contribute content, we can easily cook up something useful, and then see
where it goes from there. There's plenty of such projects in biological
sciences (e.g. http://openwetware.org/wiki/Main_Page etc.), but I always
considered organic chemists to be a too conservative bunch.

Is there at all an interest here in such a project?
 
> /Jonas
>
> Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
> >On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 06:46:45PM +0000, will jones wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I've tried using that site before and also found it a bit thin. If you
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I see bigger problems here: http://www.syntheticpages.org/static/terms.php
> >
> >Copyright
> >
> > * SyntheticPages owns the copyright and any other rights to all
> > materials on this website
> > * SyntheticPages authorises you to:
> > o browse and download the material
> > o print out the material for teaching or research activities,
> > provided that the copyright notice is included (Copyright
> > SyntheticPages © )
> > * You are not authorised to:
> > o alter the material in any way
> > o reproduce or store any part of this web site in any other
> > public or private storage medium, electronic or otherwise,
> > without written permission from SyntheticPages.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>could make the submission process easy, and somehow have the ability to
> >>search by structure, then I guess you would be onto a winner.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >These are GIFs, so in order to be able to search the images would
> >have to be reentered manually, and exported into a suitable format
> >(SMILEs, InChI, SDF, etc.) for searching (in a pinch, obgrep would do).
> >
> >
> >
> >>If you could also put in a 'section of failed reactions, but should have
> >>worked' then that would be awesome.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
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