ORGLIST: resume: sink or float?

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From: Javier Cuesta-Perez (javier$##$icr.ac.uk)
Date: Mon Jul 23 2001 - 06:44:26 EDT


So far I have received these answers:



personally, i believe that the HDO cube would sink, as it
is heavier than the H2O cube, but the HDO wouldn't sink as
far as the D2O.

paul




- Yo creo que debe de flotar,

  Pues si lo que hace flotar al hielo normal es que el
arreglo de puente de H en forma de una estructura hexagonal
con huecos, se debe de formar un puente en el HDO.

Felipe Correa.




I would say that it should sink, being that Deuterium is
present.

Jumping off my soapbox......weee!

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Hello Javier,

>>From the data you gave, IMHO there is no way of telling.
The density of ice and water is strongly influenced by
hydrogen bonding. Deuterium bonding is weaker, but I do not
know to what extent does that affect the
crystalline parameters at a given temperature. For example,
a weaker H-bonding may mean a mere 2% increase of the
average O-O nearest neighbor distances. The
lower theoretical (crystalline) density thus obtained will
compensate for nearly 5.6% increase in molecular mass and
make the half-deuterated ice float.

All the best,

Jacob

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